The YouTube Couple Torn Apart by an "Obsessive" Fan: Ryan Trahan and Haley Pham
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Ryan Trahan and Haley Pham are called out in a video essay, and the response gets very messy.
In early September, a GRblock channel called SPV Laboratories posted a commentary video titled "ryan trahan and haley pham need to press pause."
Before it was made private a few weeks later, the video had nearly half a million views.
The video essay was just over two hours long and contained many criticisms about Ryan's and Haley's decisions and how they presented their actions to their young audience. And then it got really messy.
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Ryan I agree with you.
You know everyone gets criticism especially when you're a social media influencer tbh its odd that he chose them but people commentate on what they're interested in. His criticisms were harsh but fair, they were in-depth and clearly researched
idk... i think that this situation has been blown waaaaay out of proportion. SPV didn't have to make the video. he just didnt! however, he did bring some valid points to the table.
this whole thing is dum lol
Am I the only one who thinks that opening a vial that says marry me that you gave me a long time ago is mega romantic? I would cry
If you watch this entire video and put all the facts together it does seem like this young couple did this differently, grew together, made mistakes and took acountability for them which is completely normal. They should be able to live how they want too. What isnt normal is this older man gathering information and spending hours on a documentary about a couple that isnt even that problematic. Ryan and Hayley towards the end are obviously maturing so well and treated the situation responsibly. Idc the context, it is weird for a grown man to make hours of content dedicated to highlighting the mistakes of a young couple.
The stock clips are SO zzzzz, STOP.
Nurses aren't doctors and they cannot diagnose anything but they can TREAT things.
lol imagine it’s a 12 yr old boy that just has killer editing skills 😂😂
When SPV says he has been following Ryan and Haley I don't think he is talking about in the Internet, but the real life...
this spv guy makes good points but is super creepy
I’m 17 and I wanna graduate. I don’t plan to go to college for a while because I don’t ever plan on having kids either.
personally I don’t watch them but I think that SPV’s words really just didn’t make sense. They are doing there own thing and they don’t have to match other people’s expectations. I also think it’s so weird that he was mainly going to Hayley, she isn’t my favorite person but I think it’s wrong of him to do that.
i think he went too far. yes they made huge mistakes but dont we all? Maybe we should get in his business and see how he likes it
Whatever you want to say or think about the couple.. cool.... BUT this SPV person sounds creepy scary tbh
Bro just let them live why does he care so much? they’re not hurting anybody, whether they should or shouldn’t buy a house is their business, whether they want to get marry young or not is their business, and and if they want to save themselves for marriage is also their business I don’t understand why this grown man really thinks that making a two hour documentary about some couple he saw online is not the main concern here. Also as an immigrant I don’t know what type of culture this guy has but I intend to a soon as I’m making enough money tell my parents to stop working and I’ll take care of them.
Bro just let them live why does he care so much? they’re not hurting anybody, whether they should or shouldn’t buy a house is their business, whether they want to get marry young or not is their business, and and if they want to save themselves for marriage is also their business I don’t understand why this grown man really thinks that making a two hour documentary about some kids that he saw online is not the main concern here.
I think one year IS a long time for that age. A lot of brain development occurs.
I don't think when Haley and Ryan get married is any of our business, considering it not our relationship and we don't have a say in how comfortable they feel.
What is even a MEntAl SteP bAcK??
I got married young. We were both 21 and have been married for more than 5 years.
are haley and ryan supposed to teach kids about buying a house in their videos? no, they just uploaded them looking for one, that doesnt HAVE to come with an indept and how to buy a house and tell kids about it tho
I think the way people are judging them like they're ADULTS when they're not is UNFAIR. Every kid thinks they're mature than they actually are. Give them a break.
Omg, he needs to calm, there videos are for entertainment purposes, and he’s talking bout, “what will they learn from this” or “look what your teaching them”
this whole situation is weird. this grown man seems obsessed with them. he’s criticizing them for things i’ve seen a ton of other young couples do. he only knows them at an artificial level and has no idea what their relationship is like offline. there’s so many other people who actually deserve to have a two hour video made on them.
"But internet human not as much", oh yeah because of these "internet humans" you are living in this house.. but umm ok.
"I can't believe that someone thinks I'm marrying someone because we bought a house together." I don't know why but that had me rolling ..
guy doxxed himself, that entire argument is invalid
I couldn't imagine being 27, and spending countless hours studying some kids as if they don't have other adults to advise them...Doesn't he have his own life/marriage to focus on?
seriously, people were forced to be married at 14, it is called child marriage and its iLlEgAl
I genuinely used to like Haley's videos and as much as it is weird to see her acting like a grown-up and stuff, I'm not gonna make a 2-hour video criticizing her bc it's her life. I understand that she has a young and impressionable audience but it's not her job to parent them. For the most part, I just think she can be a bit careless and ignorant. I don't condone her advice but really should anyone be taking that kinda advice seriously? But like I don't understand people who are sitting around and waiting for her marriage to fail like that's so unfair. This SPV person makes valid points but he wanted to see them fail from the start
I have no respect for someone who hides behind the camera, concealing his identity seems like a cowardly move
Who is spv to be judging people's life?? I don't know none of these people but who th did he think he is... 🙄🙄🙄
Am i the only one that immediately thought yerrow was kinda sus?
i agree with the whole birth control thing synthetic hormones are horrible for you..
being angry at God... 😳
why would a nurse take their time to get to know you??? who do u think u are????
Okay but deciding a certain type of birth control isn’t for you after one week isn’t doing research. It took my body almost 3 months to get used to my birth control (I take the pill and have been for the past 4 years) it takes your body time to get used to the hormones in birth control.
dream stans be like
"This is kind of offensive--" But still says something offensive anyway. She seems out of touch.
Ryan’s response to this insanity really illustrates just how mature he is. He’s handling this better than I would and I’m in my 30s. I don’t think getting married young is a great choice, but honestly, it’s not my life. I married the man I was with from the age of 21 on. We waited until we were 28, but we had been together for ages, soot wouldn’t have made a difference in our situation
Ryan seems like a person who does things for a reason like him complementing the guy at the beginning of his story and later using that like I believe that information was unnecessary and it was just used to prove his innocence oh and add a fundraiser on a video calling someone out like that seems like a strategic bias plan to me but he should include some of the background to his vids that includes the professionals cause more content
Haley didn’t do much wrong really she just says a little too much and I mean Greece has it’s flaws but come to America and break a finger and then have to pay thousands of dollars to get help yeah your gonna have a bias opinion about it and she tries to avoid stuff which is typical gen z behavior
Lol never heard anything about them until now
SPV: Creepy Documentary: Mostly Valid
i went to greece and its not bad
I get that spv made the video showing flaws but man he as a random person had 0 rights to even suggest how they should live their life and what they can or cannot show. Also the pictures just immediately allowed the couple to discredit everything he said in the video. I guess SPV should have looked up his own history before digging up theirs 😂
I GOT MARRIED AT 19, MY HUSBAND 20. MY PARENTS WERE OK SINCE WE HAD A PLAN. IT IS FIN E IF YOU KNOW HOW TO GROW AND LEARN. WE ARE VERY HAPPY THANK YOU. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LIVE YOUNG ugh I'm done
Eeeeehhhhhh.........I’m siding with Ryan. Maybe not Hayley, but eh. I kind of don’t care, I have my own life to worry about, ya know? Let these folks be.
The right side is a blend of both here
What I don't understand is why so many people are STILL criticizing haley so severely for those past ignorant remarks. She made an apology video that felt genuine as she held herself accountable to all of the things she said. Am I the only one who thinks she deserves forgiveness? Or at least an end to the consistent bashing. There are definitely more problematic people on the internet to go after.
i like ryan but haley is very sus, I cant even LOL.. like I used to really like her in 2019... but.... shes just so.. i dunno
Why don't haley's apologies ever sound genuine? Her actions are so disrespectful yet she treats her mistakes as small oopsies. Its just really abnoxious.
It's sad that people make a living off of criticizing other peoples lives.... But, I suppose that's what happens when those "other people (being criticized)" put their lives online...I hope this is just a trend and people learn how detrimental this is for everyone involved.
i have a friend who lived in greece and other than the high class areas, they say the areas are pretty horrific
idk i think people are over reacting with this whole situation, the only thing i think was really wrong was her dissing on Greece.
im honestly just so tired of "influencers"
Easier to make mortgage payments then paying rent
who are these people
The pull out method is actually pretty reliable tho...
31:23 "SPV is a creepy elderly 27 year old!"
I didn't realize there were people on the internet that never heard the term ARG (Alternative Reality Game)!
Ok the whole thing is irritating to me lol and I don’t even know the couple. SPV had some valid criticisms but the rest of it was just very vicious towards Hayley. What the whole thing comes off as to me is a fan of Ryan’s who hates Hayley simply because she dropped out of high school and said some problematic things (which she has owned up to). It sounds like a lot people just don’t like Hayley and think of her as less then because of her dropping out of high school(Not a soul mentioned him dropping out of college). I think that they handled everything well and it sounds like they are just documenting their journey together as a couple. A couple who are growing from their mistakes and are continuing to grow. I see a lot people keep saying ‘they are adults.’, ‘they can’t say ‘treat them like adults’ and ‘treat them like teenagers who make mistakes.’’ Let’s not act like we don’t get what they are saying and that we don’t get it. We all make mistakes and grow from them no matter how old or young we are. We can all grow no matter when our last mistake was. Yes SPV was creepy and you cannot separate that from his criticism video the whole alternate universe game is very weird and no one can deny that he took pics from when the other Ryan was younger(and they were pics of him shirtless) and put him in various relationships with other people and SPV was an adult. The whole doxxing thing wasn’t doxxing because he already had his information own(that he put out there himself) on public display. The thing about a wife the kid on the way to me personally isn’t doxxing but I understand that some people wouldn’t want info like that out there.
lol Ryan was talking about how this guy was like "I appreciate it" and laughed it off meanwhile haley is just giving false information and giggling?
My mom is an ER nurse. She doesnt get to know her patients because theres ALWAYS work to do, especially with the pandemic. Haley is obviously entitled and thinks she deserves higher treatment than others.
I have two questions. Why was this in my recommendation? And why tf did I watch the whole thing? 🤦♂️
I don't know why they apologized , it's literally their life
honestly, while some of their haters' (and SPV's) points about this couple are valid, things that people should really leave their noses out of would be their decisions to get married young and buy a house at their age. that's really THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND THEIR OWN CHOICE and they should not feel the need to explain themselves or apologise. disclaimer: i am not one of their fans, neither one of their haters. i'm just someone who happened to come across this video and realised how much they (especially ryan) had to justify their actions regarding their young marriage and purchase of a house
Who?
I don't even know these people and I still watched
SPV sounds so jealous though 😂 ...
She says SPV---I hear STD
22:05 Need I say more-
Why are still people thinking that getting married on 18 is wrong and bad brooo this is their fking choice
Ok idk why everyone is so concerned with them getting married young i think they are gonna be fine many people (my parents for just one example) get married at a young age but as for the rest of the stuff i think they need to do a lot of self reflection
What's wrong with this guy? Why is he worried about what they do or how they do things it's their life good or bad so who does he think he is? I mean so what?
I love that someone wrote their response videos for them. You can see him looking off camera to read the script he was provided.
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He might have written it himself
I honestly don't get why these people are famous. They do not deserve any of the millions of dollars they have.
Wrong, Haley. The worst move of all is hating and blaming your Creator for everything that happen in your life to which you made your choices and He has nothing to do with it at all.
Stealing content and $ from SPV
Spill saying "people who can get pregnant/people with uteruses" instead of using feminizing terms gives me (trans masc) gender euphoria-
Haley DOES seem pretty spoiled, unlikable and detached from reality. (Donating money is great, but that doesn’t mean you’re active in the community either) THIS WAS A BIG WASTE OF TIME.
i really liked the video spv made. idk if that makes me sound weird but it watched and i really liked it. he never talked about things they hadn't already shared online so i dont think that what he did was weird. he definitely spent a lot of time editing that video so props to him.
A commission to get a CAT scan???????
Why does this video say a couple was torn apart????
Bruh Greece and the people there are amazing
was here
Has anyone been worried about Haley like as of right now? I feel like she’s not happy & is ignoring us as her audience. I was subscribed to her but she just changed out of nowhere again and want to see her happy & doing actually what she wants
I can’t believe I just watched a 45 minute long video about people Idek🤣 never watched a video about them. Anyways Haley is a little slow😭
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Ryan seems like a wholesome dude caught up in this mess because of haley honestly.
The spv guy seems like a computer... Analyzing every detail of this couples life.
Idk why these channels bother to put a disclaimer on don't go harass the people in the video.... We saw what happened when twitch banned the word SIMP. It went up 97%. So basically you're just telling everyone to go and harass.
Looks to me like some young people have a stocker who wants to use them for attention and demonize them while staying anonymous. You made a two hour video about them but then whine about your name being said while the guys complimenting you? they handled this in a pretty mature fashion given their age and the fact that this guys whole thing is about how their immature mistakes are a bad influence on young people is really weird. These young people (based off this video only) seem to be handling adult responsibilities and discussing adult topics the best that they can. Growing and figuring out life. Making mistakes. Making money. I get the whole public figure argument but this is going above and beyond coming for these “kids” and for what? Jealous?
Dude just let them live oh my god
Ryan is super smart. He pulled out his deck. Good for him.
you guys are tweaking. you are all acting as if your obligated to make them your mentors
She's literally telling young people that having a kid at 14/17 is normal 💀💀
Yee haw I guess
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She’s not. She’s saying it was normal at the time 100+ years ago with the shorter lifespan.
can we talk about how these so called "kids" handled the situation better and more mature than any other youtuber i've ever seen??
ryan is so much mature than hayley tbh. its just something abt her I don't like
...nurses aren’t doctors...that’s why they have different names...girllll should have stayed in school